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Showing posts with label abortion. Show all posts
Showing posts with label abortion. Show all posts

Tuesday, 30 July 2013

Labor claims equality but butchers babies

What would life be like without the ALP in charge?  So horrible, thinks the ALP, that they're enlisting volunteers to doorknock their neighbourhoods and tell their friends what the ALP means to them and why we need them back in power at this election.

So sweet.  Listen to the beautiful words from the latest email seeking to enlist this volunteer army :
Our campaign in Victoria is about empowering people like you to share your stories with friends and neighbours about how Labor has made a positive difference for you. Please share how Labor policies and values have impacted your life with your friends and families on social media using our #thisislabor hash tag.
 
Every Labor supporter has a reason why they’ve chosen Labor.  
My reason is that Labor’s the only party that values every member of our community and aims for an equal society.
 I replied :
Please help me understand :

You claim "Labor’s the only party that values every member of our community and aims for an equal society.".

What are Labor's policies towards those not yet born?  Are they not community members at their very most vulnerable?  Doesn't Labor advocate taxpayer funded baby butchery?  How is this equality?  Put them up for adoption - don't butcher them.  THEN you'll be a party that values every member of our community.

Or else how do you justify this gross lie, this disconnect between your words and your actions?  If babies are people - their own DNA, their own blood type, their own tiny beating heart, able to feel pain even halfway through gestation - if babies are people, they are community members.  Protect them accordingly.

Please reply so I can know whether Labor might be worth voting for this year, or whether they're a bunch of hypocrites like paedophile priests saying nice things on one hand and destroying children's lives on the other.
Ouch.  Like paedophile priests, but worse, because at least a victim of paedophilia has some chance (however scant) of recovery and leading a joyful life.  Dismembered babies don't.

Liberal is somewhat better, but for a party that really supports EVERY member of society, you need to look to minority parties like the DLP (Democratic Labor Party) or Australian Christians.  You might object to some of their other policies, but tell me : what's worse, butchering innocent people without trial when they've done no wrong, or making life harder than it needs to be after they're born?  All politicians make mistakes, and these mistakes hurt others, but mistakes that kill others by the thousands each day are a special class.  Politicians that support taxpayer-funded abortion have no business leading our nation.

Wednesday, 28 September 2011

Uni students do a 180 on abortion

There's a new movie out called "180". Worth a watch.

A wide range of uni students are interviewed one-on-one or one-on-two, and go from pro-abortion to pro-life and pro-adoption.

What changed their minds?

Find out : 180movie.com

Tuesday, 12 October 2010

My Choice Is No Crime



My Choice Is Not A Crime

I'm pro-choice, you see.

Choices are good.

Y'know - to pick your nose, or wipe your arse with your bare hands.

Even to rub that stuff in someone else's face.

Choices, right? We celebrate 'em, we love 'em.

And according to Aussie pro-death group GitStuffed (not their real name), "My Choice Is No Crime".

That's right.

I chose to burgle your house last night. Oh - thanks for the lingerie - and the jewelery was swisher than I expected - you've got class!

But wait - the moment my choice becomes an action, you think I can be held accountable?

Bullshit!

After all, My Choice Is Not A Crime.

Oh? Sorry - repeat that? Oh - a choice is not a crime if it doesn't affect someone else.

So that would make abortion a crime then, wouldn't it.

I mean - that cute little baby snuggled inside your womb feels pain independently of you - no bodily organs can do that.

And heck - he/she probably has a different blood type to you. Tell me, what bodily organ does THAT!

So without a doubt, little cutesie in your womb is a beautiful baby, distinct from you.

And you just told me that My Choice Is A Crime, if it hurts another.

So what are we arguing about? Sounds like it's case-closed.

Monday, 11 October 2010

A day in the life of the Australian Sex Party : genitals, yes; brains, MIA

It was a beautiful Spring day. The sun shone bright and full. A cool breeze gently caressed our faces.

We thronged the streets of Melbourne - thousands of us, gathered in a peaceful joyful celebration of life.

Passers by wondered at the long procession, and with us being such a peaceful sea of happy faces, we received many kind greetings from those we ambled by.

We had almost finished our walk before I heard the first nay-sayer. I was suprised we got that far with only one, or at least only one I heard. "Go home!' was his intellectually-stimulating shout.

But as we progressed further along those last few hundred metres, I began to hear a rhythmic sound that felt strangely angry. Very angry.

It was confusing and hard to decipher at first. There was music playing - I vaguely recognised the song. But out of sync with the music, there was some other chant. I could not hear the words, but I could immediately feel : whatever it was, it felt wrong. On the inside.

It wasn't a chant of love, of gratitude or thanks. Whatever it was, it was angry.

Was it some of us, having walked so peacefully, now angrily yelling a pro-life message?

I would have been surprised. It seemed so out-of-character with the group and with the lovely spirit of the walk so far!

What then?

Aha! I see now.
Enter stage left: the Australian Sex Party, riding on a pink stallion!
Waving placards advertising themselves as the "Australian Sex Party", a small but angry mob (30 people?) were coordinating their efforts by chanting in unison.

Did I mention they were angry?

Very angry.

And so they graced us as we peacefully gathered at our final meeting place.

We were there, representing those who died without a voice, without a choice.

Those whose lives and every chance of future hopes and choices was snatched from them, by cruel adults in a cruel world, emboldened by cruel legislation.

They were there to, well... it wasn't really that clear what they were there to do.

At one point during our proceedings, they chanted together :

"Not the Church,

"Not the State,

"WOMEN will decide their fate!"

Uh, really?

MORE than half of abortion victims are women.

So let's get this straight : that's a lot of women not getting to decide their fate.

In fact, the Australian Sex Party is anti-choice. If they believed in choice, they'd let the babies be born, and adopted by loving parents, and then let each baby grow up and decide for himself/herself whether they want to commit suicide or continue living.

Don't make that choice for them!

As soon as you choose for someone else that they will die, you are anti-choice.

In contrast, I am stridently _pro_-choice. Let the baby live, and make its own choices as it learns and grows.

On and on they chanted. "Not the Church, not the State. WOMEN will decide their fate!"

Such a ridiculous self-contradiction.

The only thing it seemed anything like was a monstrous four year old, furious at the world when things don't go their way.

What do you do when you're a spoiled brat and you want something to change? You throw a temper tantrum.

Yep - that's the ASP.

But evidently sensing that I detected a lack of intellectual integrity in that chant, they did eventually switch.

"No way, back to the backyard!
"No way, back to the backyard!
"No way, back to the backyard!"

On and on and on for minutes or maybe even tens of minutes.

If you want a political party that is able to coordinate the mindless yelling of short self-contradicatory slogans, the Australian Sex Party has definitely proven their prowess. I'd vote for them anyday. Highly intellectually stimulating.

But hang on a second - oh, yeah, I see.

It actually took me a minute or two before I could even understand their garbled chant - the "no way back to the backyard" one. Yeah, I was at a distance from them at that point.

But right, I get it now : they're saying that the legislative reform of two years past meant late-term abortions could move out of the backyard into the hospitals. You know - those places where the Hippocratic oath is held in reverence and lives are preserved by all possible means.

And they're saying that there is absolutely no way they will accept a re-criminalisation of abortion which would send abortions "back to the backyard".

Right... so now that I understand what they're saying, shall I bother tearing it to shreds?

No?

Ok, let's not bother. It is too pitifully stupid. It really is an insult to the intelligence of every person gathered there on the ASP platform.

I would love to have gone up and talked peacefully and quietly to one of them, and invited them to my house for a coffee. Clearly, when dripping with such extreme anger and seeming hatred towards "us" - "us", the much larger group who had peacefully gathered, and who were the only reason they too were present (i.e. to protest against our presence) - clearly, some of these poor folk had some pretty screwy ideas about "us" and the universe, to hate us so much. I thought a constructive conversation over a coffee - well, obviously we wouldn't leave united in opinion, but they might "discover the other" and feel the love and realise we're not quite as bad as they think...

But alas, perhaps a dozen police officers were standing twixt us and they (or perhaps a good thing? they were so angry - and without a cause - who knows, they would probably have thought themselves to be doing a good thing to physically assault us), and so I decided against visiting them on this occasion.
Back to the... BACKYARD! HILARIOUS!
But wait - writing a blog has proven one thing to me, and that is :

Most people don't think. Whatever is extremely obvious will still be missed by most people.

Need proof? (chuckle) I have loads of comments left by people on this blog, who made idiots of themselves by completely missing both the point and the obvious.

So - please forgive me and bear with me, those for whom this is obvious - please bear with me whilst I momentarily deconstruct the piercing insights of the Australian Sex Party, embodied in their insightful slogan, "No way, back to the backyard!".

For starters : where does crime belong? Does it not belong in the backyard, or elsewhere out of public eye? So, if abortion is a crime, should it not return exactly to that very place?

But abortion is not a crime, you say. Oh? By what standard?

By the standard of Victorian legislation?

Tell me : was abortion a crime 100 years ago?

What about late-term abortion - which was the subject of today's peaceful procession.

Was late-term abortion a crime three years ago?

Yes?

Did you advocate it nonetheless? i.e. was it morally right for a woman to have a late-term abortion, even though it was illegal?

See, the ASPers believe that abortion - at any age - is morally noble. A far better choice than - shock of shocks, horror of horrors - letting an unwanted child be adopted by loving would-be-parents.

So, to them, as far as they're concerned, abortion has always been legal, from a moral perspective. It's the morally right choice to let a woman choose to deny her baby choice.

And legislation is just a pesky thing standing in the way of what is morally right.

Thus sayeth the Australian Sex Party, and they must be right, 'coz no-one would be that angry if they didn't have an irrefutable lucid case to back up their stance... or not.

But hang on a second - the Australian Sex Party claims to be opposed to religion in politics.

But the very claim that a woman has a right to abort her baby - a right that transcends any legislation - is a religious claim.

Either law is determined entirely by humans - majority rule or whatever - or else law has some "transcendental" qualities.

ASP claims on the one hand they don't want religion in politics, and then on the other hand appeals to some nebulous undefined religious-sounding transcendental "right" of a woman to deny another woman the chance to be born and live.

Go figure.

So they're contradictory, once again.

So maybe they'll quickly back-pedal and say that no, abortion isn't "right" for any absolute reasons, but only because it is the will of the people.

Is it the will of the people?

There are plenty of stats that indicate otherwise. Like the flood of pro-life submissions - vastly outweighing the pro-death ones - sent to the Victorian Legislative Council when it proposed "legalising" late-term abortions a few years ago.

But let's grant for a microsecond that "the majority" want abortion to be legal, and let's suppose for a moment that there are no absolutes and the will of the majority makes things "right".

Even if so, what if the will of the people changes?

Clearly, a hundred years ago the "will of the people" was for abortion to be illegal.

In fact, homosexuality and marital infidelity too.

I don't suppose the Australian Sex Party would want that.

But to reject that, they either have to appeal to some indefensible notion of absolute women's rights - in which case they're taking a religious position themselves, the which they explicitly denounce - or they have to appeal to the will of the majority, in which case they have to concede that those laws were good and noble in their time.

And if so, then they also have to concede that if the will of the people is shown to be pro-life, or becomes pro-life in the future, then abortions should indeed go "back to the backyard".

And - yeah, sorry, I apologised in advance about labouring the point, but some people need everything to be shown step-by-step, so bear with me ...

The Australian Sex Party is engaged in lobbying designed to alter the "will of the people". If they think the will of the majority is the only rightful rule, and they think it's fine for them to try to alter the will of the people, then why are they so vehemently and spitefully opposed to us also seeking to alter the "will of the people" through careful research and education about the MANY bad outcomes inherently associated with abortion?

The only possible answer : they're hypocrites. Whatever promotes their cause is good; whatever opposes it is bad. There is no other morality to the ASP. They have a religious commitment to unfettered sex and unfettered murder.

They are a religion.

Their holy book is the ASP manifesto.

Their creed is mindless adherence to the belief that anything goes in sex or baby-killing, just because.

Or if they try to pin their credibility on Atheism and Humanism, they fall into the same trap once again : Atheism is an absolute belief in the absolute non-existence of any God, a belief that is simply unable to be substantiated via the scientific method. Atheism is thus inherently religious in nature, and in fact this is how Humanism has obtained income tax concessions - it is a registered religion.

So whichever way you slice the cake, the Australian Sex Party is full of religious zealots.

"Get religion out of politics" they say, but what they mean is "we will tolerate no religion except our own!".

Their religion, they tell us, must set all the rules, and all other religions must be banished. Hello? That seems fair... lol.

The most striking thing about this lovely day out with the Australian Sex Party was their absolute, total lack of rationality.

Slogans, yes. Anger, yes. Religious fervour and commitment, yes.

We have stats, we have research, we have interviews, we have personal stories, and we have a cogent worldview in which our position makes sense.

But them? All zeal. All unbridled anger. But no substance. Not a single intelligent comment from them, all day. Not that I was privy to.

Self-contradiction - yeah, loads of that. Truckloads.

But sense? Look elsewhere! :o)

But, I haven't finished : "back to the backyard". Bear with me whilst I deconstruct it just a little longer...
Already back in the backyard!
The ASP are hypocrites still further. "No way [will we let abortion go] back to the backyard!"

They yelled it over and over and over again.

But actually, they're already doing that.

The RU486 abortion pill is taken at home. A "backyard abortion" if you will.

And a new phenomenon in the USA, starting here in Australia too, is the abortion-via-internet. Skype or whatever to a trained professional who will guide you through the process of killing that pesky little baby inside.

In fact, it was not the legalisation of abortions and hence access to medical facilities that starting "saving women's lives" through "safe abortions", but the availability of antibiotics.

And do I need to point out the bleeding obvious once again, that when one in two patients die, an abortion can hardly ever be called "safe", and when a woman kills her female baby, it can hardly be called supporting women's choices when that woman-to-be never got a chance.

But I digress.

All I really mean to say is that abortion is already back in the backyard.

So much for "no way, back to the backyard!". Intellectual stimulation to the max, these ASPers. Maybe they really do only think with their genitals?

But hey, I'm sure they're all lovely people, deeeeep down, beneath thick layers of anger and other nasties. Somewhere in there. Surely.

I really would like to meet some of them, one-on-one in person in casual conversation around a coffee.

If they manage to climb out of their self-imposed prison of hate, they might just discover an interesting world of different opinions that aren't quite as wacky - nor quite as screwy - as they clearly believe.

And hey - we can always part friends, even if our ideologies never align. I don't mind having friends who are self-confessed murderers. Murder is wrong, but that doesn't change the fact that murderers are precious people who I can love and genuinely care about.

I'm not so sure it goes in the reverse - believing in moral absolutes different to their own is such a hideous crime, I doubt many of them could displace their own prejudices long enough to really get to know me. But hey - their loss.

And so, it was an interesting day, and made all the more interesting by the Australian Sex Party.

Until today, I thought they were weird but I knew little about them.

But thanks to their efforts, I am now much better informed : they are self-contradictory all the way, intellectually destitute and driven by blind anger. Maybe even rage. Kudos, ASP. Kudos.
The better way to argue
In contrast to the total lack of anything intelligent heard from the ASP today, I will end with this :

"Trees aren't the only things worth saving."

That is an intelligent banner - one of many in today's procession.

It leaves open the question : what else is worth saving? Are babies worth saving? It doesn't directly answer the question. It invites intelligent discussion.

ASP, if you want to be taken seriously, you need to grow up beyond your four-year-old temper tantrums and invite discussion around intelligent questions, instead of making your list of hostile demands.

Thanks for a fun day, and hey - if you can bear to put your prejudice aside, let's have a coffee.

Oh - and mindless rants in the comments doesn't exactly constitute a coffee. Thought I'd better throw that one in... :o)
Concluding remarks
If late-term abortion was actually a crime here in the state of Victoria, just three years ago, then re-criminalisation could occur just as soon. If morality is determined by the will of the people, what's wrong with re-criminalising the murder of unprotected babies, if that is the will of the people? And if you can't answer that question, ASPer, you really are as intellectually bankrupt as today made you seem. That's alright - failing to think is not a crime, but your life will be better if you think well instead of not at all. I promise. :o)

But the reality, ASPer, is that you believe abortion is right, not because it is the will of the people, but because it is morally right in some transcendant absolute sense of the word. But you're too much of a coward to attempt to argue it, because you realise that as soon as you start trying to argue for moral absolutes, you're in a losing battle against some pretty strong arguments in favour of theistic morality.

And hence today's demonstration : why engage the intellect if you know you'll lose? And why abandon an indefensible position? Best thing to do is yell and shout angrily and hope people ignore the problems in your beliefs!
Go home - such piercing brilliance
P.S. I would be remiss not to mention : clearly once again detecting that I saw through the intellectual paucity of their second major slogan, the ASPers turned to a final, and most thought-provoking slogan, the which they spent the final ten minutes or so chanting, angrily, repeatedly, loudly : "Go home!". Such piercing insight, as I said before, truly should be enshrined in print, published and distributed throughout the four corners of our land. Such depths of perception caused great lights to awaken within our minds, as we understood life like never before. Ah, no. I mock. But they really did chant that, and really for that long. Based on their intellectual, ummm, lightweightness shall we say, demonstrated today, I can see them boasting "we drove away that crowd of pro-lifers! We told them to go home, and they did!" Uh, yeah. Stand there telling someone to go home for an hour until they finished what they came to do and go home anyway, and hey, if you need that kind of thing to boost your ego and make you think you're having some kind of effect, uh, I have some psychologists I could recommend. So, it'll be very amusing if they do try to make that claim : "Australian Sex Party dismisses pro-life rally" or something equally absurd. Like I said, the intellectual integrity of a four-year-old throwing a temper tantrum. That's about all I saw from them today. Plus anger, to the max and a strong dose of hatred. Nice work, bro, nice...

Sunday, 10 October 2010

Abortion : good bu$ine$$, bad ethics

Adiel Hope was murdered by unusual means.

Drowned in a bucket of formaldehyde.

It would sound amusing - wtf - what was a bucket of formaldeyhde doing lying around anyway?

Except that it's true, and Adiel ain't the only one.

She was born alive. Most babies are.

But someone wanted her dead.

Her caretaker took her - immediately after her live birth - and dropped her in the bucket.

Yep. Breathing, squirming and all.

Kinda like you might drown a rat if you didn't care about cruelty to animals.

Except even crueller, 'coz the formaldehyde hurts like heck.

Especially when you breath it.

The trainee nurse was traumatised.

You bet!

I reckon the baby was too.

But according to the Australian Sex Party, and the Victorian government, this is a good thing - or at least much better than the unthinkably horrible outcome of letting the baby live.

I guess they haven't met Melissa Ohden.

Nor would they want to!

Someone who survived an abortion attempt on her own life, grew up with adopted parents and lived a rich and fulfilling life despite a poor medical prognosis and never meeting her blood parents - it proves that every life is worth giving a chance, even if only in the hands of adopted parents.

Life - imagine the potential.

Melissa has gone on to make truckloads of inspiring choices with her life.

Choices that would have been snuffed out of existence had the abortion "succeeded".

Abortion is anti-choice.

But Melissa is pro-choice, in the truest sense of the word.

Giving babies a chance is pro-choice to the max : the mother can still live life they way she wants - just give the baby out for adoption - there are loads of desperate would-be-adoptive-parents denied the chance to ever have a baby to call their own. And of course the baby will face more choices than the mother has remaining in her own life, assuming average lifespans, 'coz the mother has already used up some of her years and opportunities to choose.

Pro-life is pro-choice. Pro-abortion is anti-choice.

It doesn't matter which way you cut the cake - abortion is good bu$ine$$, but bad ethics.

Friday, 6 March 2009

Women's Rights & Safe Abortion

(Continued from Women's Rights & Equal Responsibility)

Norway and Sweden partnered with the International Planned Parenthood Federation to host a panel on “Promoting Sexual and Reproductive Empowerment.” Both governments expressed the need to prioritize “sexual and reproductive rights.” In his brief address, Norwegian State Secretary Hakon Gulbrandsen proclaimed that “sexual rights are a cornerstone to gender equality” and that “safe abortion is a crucial component of sexual and reproductive rights.” (emphasis mine)

Hang on a second! This is wildly contradictory.

For starters - there is no such thing as a "safe" abortion.

Almost always at least one person dies. For every abortion. That's not very safe.

Oftentimes the survivor suffers extreme depression, and occasionally they commit suicide.

And occasionally two people die as a direct result of the "procedure".

This statistics are pretty alarming.

Over 50% of patients directly involved in an abortion are dead within a week.

Sometimes it's an infection that kills the mother - pretty rare these days.

Sometimes it's a living human baby that survives the abortion, comes out into the life-giving air, only to be abandoned on a shelf, like a piece of junk or a disinteresting book, until their pitiful cries are weakened by thirst and they finally succumb to the cruel harsh reality of a compassionless industry.

Most of the time, it's just the intended, pre-meditated, calculated, and very painful --- dismembering or other cruel torture and killing of a very healthy and often very viable member of the human race.

If you killed your animal this way, without anaesthetic or other painkiller, the RSPCA would charge you - you be jailed or fined for "cruelty to animals".

But so long as its a human, its ok. At least, as long as the human has no voice and can't defend itself.

Or at least, as long as we can by some way or other get away with it... (and "legal protection" provides such a way)

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But look at their idiotic contradictions!

"Sexual and reproductive rights", for all!

Where are the sexual and reproductive rights of the girl they killed?

That baby, supposedly, has the same sexual and reproductive rights as anyone else. After all - that's the point of a "right" - it's universal - everyone gets it.

But mercilessly slaughtered, that "right" has been stolen from the girl.

Oh - and let me talk about "sexual rights". They insist that I have the right to choose when, where, with whom, and even if I will have sex, but only so long as I am engaging in sex with someone else who is equally willing.

In other words - they claim that the will of the individual is supreme, that a person's choice or desire or intention to have sex with another is of cosmic importance, and if the other is willing, no-one should stop them.

But if this sexual right is so fundamental, so powerful, so intrinsic to humanity and life itself, then why are we denying our babies the chance to utilise this right?

If we deny them the chance to grow and mature physically, we deny them the right to exercise their "sexual and reproductive rights".

So much for abortion promoting rights. It destroys them.

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And look at this :

At a youth caucus meeting, organizers refused to incorporate pro-abstinence suggestions from a group of over 20 pro-life youths. One pro-life student told the Friday Fax, “I don’t know which youth they represent, but they don’t speak for me or any of my friends that are here.”

So much for "representing us". Apparently your voice is only important if you agree with their predetermined agenda... nice.

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What to do?

* Pray specifically. That God changes hearts. That people have compassion for ALL humans - including the unborn. That the idiocy that is the pro-death movement will be shown to be compassionless, contradictory, and based on bad science and bad philosophy. That UN officials will choose life or be replaced promptly. That US judges and lawmakers and law enforcers will see the importance of valuing life at EVERY age. That the US population would be unblinded and outraged at the holocaust within.

* Continue to speak. They can ignore. But the more of us speak and the more often, the harder and harder it will be. They will try every threat and trick in the book to silence us, but if no-one else speaks for the innocents they slaughter (who cannot speak for themselves, except by writhing in pain during "procedures", and crying themselves to terminal sleep when they "survive the procedure") - if no-one else speaks for them, they will never be spoken for. Oh - and they will not be the last innocents to be mass-slaughtered...